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Commissioner O'Connor stated that he sees the challenge here is, if the Commission wants to get everything on the Arroyo down to two stories, there are seven units back there that have to go somewhere. He added that he is not sure the City wants to have all four stories up front, but even if that were done,there is room for only five in the current design, and he does not know if there is a way to shrink all seven of those that are back there and how much redesign would be required. He indicated that he would like to see whatever options the applicants can get in, maybe get a different roof design to bring the height down somewhat, or sink the back row a little bit. Commissioner Ritter stated that he would like to see a little more outreach with the residents. He indicated that the City Council passed Ordinance 2030 that basically rezoned this for an apartment complex, and so this is going to happen somewhere along the line. He added that this is a process, and the Commission wants to make sure it makes sense. He noted that all this feedback is good, and how they get implemented needs to be figured out. He suggested that the applicant talk to each of the City Councilmembers because that is important. Commissioner Posson echoed Commissioner Ritter's statements. He suggested that the applicants have multiple input meetings with the residents as the design matures to make sure to get their comments and their buy-in, so the applicants clearly understand what the residents are saying and they clearly understand what the impacts are. Commissioner Allen stated that she would like to see mature trees added to the visual analysis to show what it would look like, fully developed. She indicated that she agreed with the multiple meetings. She stated that the vision she has for the applicant might be like that of the applicant who came to the Commission recently who, two years ago, had many people in the audience like today complaining about the project; and by the time, the project came forward to the Commission, there was only one resident present, and that resident wanted to compliment the developer on what a fabulous job the developer did listening to the community and incorporating the feedback in a win-win design. She noted that it does involve negotiation and some good give-and-take, but it made it very easy for everyone. Commission.er Olson echoed the requests that had been made and added that he would like to see the applicant specifically address the two areas of water and energy as the community enters a period where these are getting dear. Chair Pearce stated that she would echo what everyone said. She indicated that she would like to see a tree report before she consents to knock down any trees. She noted that the conversation about the wildlife in the Arroyo was an interesting one and would like to figure out a way to mitigate the impact of construction on the wildlife out there as that is obviously so important to so many neighbors. EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 11, 2013 Page 22 of 24