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you need to do a CUP for that, what you're saying is you need maybe a Zoning Administrator approval for something, your concern is that you get an approval which kind of is the first domino in what you need to get to the end and that's happening maybe not as publicly as you would like Is that the concern? Commissioner Balch Don't get me wrong We see it because we see Zoning Administrator actions, and the one I have is the coding school Not that we said `no' to the coding school at the Safeway there on Bernal, right, but that one had and correct me if my memory is incorrect, as it is late in the hour, but the PUD for that had a PUD Minor Mod the first time though That got approved at the Zoning Administrator level and then they came in for a CUP which is a very minor CUP, very customary, which was a Consent item I would like to see that because that means one of those is coming here Beaudin I understand, and you will continue to see those things What happens in those scenarios is, essentially, there is a decision made to allow a particular use even if it's a conditional use It still has to come to hearing, but what you're essentially seeing is step 2 when step 1 was really the enabling act on that use Commissioner Balch When we put in place the Minor CUP process Beaudin Understood—you want to make sure the full CUP comes back in scenarios where things are Commissioner Balch initially on the premise of a Zoning Administrator action If no Zoning Administrator action is first, meaning you're just a Minor PUD straight up, I have no problem with that concept I think the noticing that you do, and that was where we were talking about—I'm jumping around pretty good, but the radius of the notice and the time—that's where I challenge you to figure out what you can facilitate but not make too overly burdensome I don't think I personally have a problem with the 10 and I do know that we could deal with it here knowing that you guys do excellent work to kind of keep us informed of that, but it's the serial meeting At least that's my biggest sticking point This we're kind of in with the Community Development Director basically doing similar uses—that I think is just the reality of a changing world Beaudin Just to maybe clarify how that's helpful with some of these really old PUDs We have a lot of Planned Unit Developments in town and when they have that established use list, what you find is that even if a use is really clear that that's exactly what you're doing there, it's just not defined that way in the PUD or it's got an old term or definition and to have to, by strict reading of the code, come to a public setting and say that's what it is, is something we haven't been doing and we'd like to get clarified in the code Commissioner Brown I retract my reservation then, but with those types of examples, I'm good Beaudin Okay I'm sorry I was trying to find a fun example My other favorite is doggy day care which is a great example of a minor use permit where you know, you have to have your dog on a leash, and you have to figure out the dog waste There's a whole EXCERPT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 19 of 25