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service? Where do you put a laundromat versus a commercial laundry plant, I would consider putting a commercial laundry plant instead of that because I know that a laundry plant is where the commercial cleaning of hotel linens and whatnot takes place versus the corner store Bonn Yes, so maybe I can clarify that So in the table on Page 23 there's actually a separate category for laundry So laundries and dry cleaners are permitted uses in the commercial districts and that's really intended to address the coin machine single person type use of laundries versus laundry plants which are more industrial in nature Commissioner Balch Okay, personal and general services Okay, so the definition on page 13 should correlate to general services to include all these types of things, right? That's the concept we're working with Beaudin Yes Commissioner Balch Okay, not that a change is needed I was just reading it When I read personal services, I didn't know if laundromats are allowed in it because it is a little bit more unique and different given the nature of that versus the ones that are in that example But, it's not Weinstein Yeah, what we did, again, we were moving away from these long lists of uses and to replace those we had these broader categories and wanted to make sure the broader categories are useful so we felt like we needed to provide some examples of those uses in the definitions, but we didn't want to put every single potential use in the definition, so that's what you're seeing Commissioner Nagler Also if I could just as a general comment, I appreciate the utility of going through the specific lists The real sort of action though of this table is what's conditional and what's permitted, right? Commissioner Balch And what's out Prohibited uses is anything not one of those two Commissioner Nagler Right, and so I don't know tonight is not the night, but I think that even though we're all supposed to use it, I think this conversation's been very illuminating and that what we all ought to take as assignments after the meeting is to go back to this table and review what is permitted and conditional, and as Mr Hirst has done really makes specific recommendations about whether they're categorized properly because that's Chair Ritter I think that's what Gerry was saying Send them a note and let them know I see bed and breakfasts Does that include VRBO if people wanted to do that or Airbnb? Weinstein So VRBO's and Airbnb's and the like are sort of in a grey area in our code right now and are not explicitly listed as allowed so they are theoretically prohibited, but we acknowledge that Airbnb's and the like can be good things for our local economy so we're trying to tread pretty lightly on those right now until we have more resolution in terms of what our actual City policy should be So we're dealing with them on a code enforcement basis as people voice complaints about them EXCERPT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 22 of 25