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would be conditioned to maintain those project specifications which would include the <br />lighting. <br />Chair Allen asked the Shoemakes if they would be willing to have their neighbors come <br />over to take a look at the lighting plan. <br />Ms. Shoemake replied that they would be happy to have Ms. Martin over. She added <br />that the lighting would be recessed in the roof, and it would be impossible for the light to <br />affect the neighbors, given the way their yard is positioned. <br />Commissioner Balch stated that he understands the structure needs a building permit <br />because it is over 120 square feet. He asked staff what the ten feet is about. <br />Mr. Weinstein replied that if the structure is less than ten feet tall, the proposal would <br />not have to go through the Administrative Design Review process where the neighbors <br />are noticed and the proposal for architecture and design are reviewed by Planning staff. <br />Commissioner Balch clarified that a building permit is required even if the structure <br />meets the minimum building size; however, if it is under ten feet tall, the proposal does <br />not need to be noticed. <br />Mr. Weinstein replied that was correct. <br />Mr. Shoemake indicated that they still need a building permit. <br />Mr. Weinstein replied that is correct, but not a Planning review. <br />Chair Allen verified that TVs are permitted in backyards, whether or not there is an <br />awning or swimming pool. <br />Mr. Weinstein said yes. He indicated that one can drag a TV up the middle of the lawn, <br />plug it in, and listen to it or watch it. <br />Commissioner O'Connor stated that he heard concerns over lighting, noise, and <br />privacy. He noted that the lighting will be tucked up under the roof, so there will not be <br />a problem with lighting spillover since the gutter is only at eight feet, and staff will review <br />the lighting plan. He indicated that the noise is going to be covered by the City's Noise <br />Ordinance, and if it is intrusive, the applicants would either correct it or it will come back <br />to the Commission. He added that there should be no problem with privacy as this will <br />be about people at ground level. <br />Chair Allen stated that there is another possibly subtle concern, whether with privacy or <br />the view, in connection with Ms. Brillhart's request to have some additional trees planted <br />that would create screening so she does not see that roofline. <br />Commissioner Balch indicated that he is not supporting that idea and would like to see <br />where the Commission stands on that element before presenting it to the applicant. He <br />stated that one thing he has seen people do to address the privacy concern where the <br />structure's lower pitch point is above a six -foot fence point is to put in lattice work at two <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 24, 2015 Page 52 of 54 <br />