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appreciate the birds. She noted that the area is now gated, and Zone 7 runs that property. She indicated that she has been trying to determine where to go next to identify where a trail could be placed in order to walk, walk animals, and have some serenity and would, therefore, like feedback on how the Commission could be motivated to provide access to the trail from the property. Chair Blank noted that he had received a speaker card from Penny Duport indicating that she supports and looks forward to the project but does not wish to speak. In response to the EVA question from Mr. Rice, Ms. Hardy reiterated that the gate would always remain locked, that there would be no pedestrian access, and that the Fire Marshal has indicated this is a secondary access point to be used only for emergency response for secondary equipment. She acknowledged Mr. Rice's concerns from an aesthetic or value standpoint and noted that some people have stated that it would improve safety and privacy in the area. She stated that she believed the EVA will not impact Mr. Rice at all. Ms. Hardy stated that she also has been in Pleasanton for about 30 years and understands the frustrations of the community with traffic issues and its desire for a clear understanding on when mitigations will be implemented. She noted, however, that from the project's standpoint, the project will not create additional traffic impact. She indicated that while Ponderosa would be happy to continue to discuss this with the neighbors, Ponderosa feels that it has over-mitigated all the impacts associated with traffic. Regarding Ms. Purcell's comments, Ms. Hardy said they were aware that at some point in the future, the City will work with Zone 7 on the Parks and Trails Master Plan at some point in the future and may allow some sort of trail access. She noted that there was also a Martin Avenue foot trail which is a great trail in that area; however, some neighbors in the immediate area have voiced concerns that they did not want any pedestrian trail. Commissioner Narum asked Ms. Hardy how she felt about the streets and sidewalks as the project is currently designed. Ms. Hardy replied that Ponderosa would be glad to have the opportunity to look at the 32-foot street widths, which would be their first preference. She reiterated, however, that Ponderosa is trying to minimize the amount of impervious surface. She noted that Ponderosa's preference would be to have reduced street widths and maintain the street width design but that they would be happy to evaluate the issue of placing sidewalks throughout the development. Chair Blank inquired if Ponderosa would be opposed to 32-foot street widths with sidewalks on both sides. Ms. Hardy replied that Ponderosa would not object to this, assuming the engineering worked out, but that she wanted an opportunity to review this with the project engineer and City staff. EXCERPTS: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 9, 2008 Page 13 of 20