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Commissioner Balch Okay, I'll move on Commissioner Allen Okay, retail I thought seemed good Are we together'? All right, so I was comfortable with collapsing the retail and I thought it made sense The one that I was a little concerned with was on the personal services that got collapsed As I look there are a lot of personal services and I see personal services in two buckets There's one kind that would be the potentially nuisance services and that could be massage parlors, maybe adult entertainment, maybe a child care center with an outdoor area Those could be nuisance related personal services that today are generally conditionally allowed where they're allowed, and that is contrasted with the other personal services like beauty salons, or the general personal services you think of, and most of those where they are allowed are permitted So my thought is we need to be careful about that category so we don't end up permitting things that might be general nuisances potentially and have two buckets under personal services And my final comment is, I do like the way you and this is back to retail, I do like the way you broke out retail into the under 60,000 square feet and the over 60,000 square feet In general, I like that concept but I noticed that you only excluded over 60,000 feet I'm in the detail on this one, but on the over 60,000 feet retail like Safeway or Home Depot, you said they would not be allowed in CN They were excluded from CN I would propose they also be excluded from CC or downtown for two reasons, one I don't think we have a lot of space downtown and I'd rather see it be used for pedestrian vital retail and/or residential where it's appropriate and not be a big Safeway I'd rather see a New Leaf Market or a smaller kind of boutique Gene's Fine Foods downtown rather than a Safeway or a Home Depot because we have a very limited amount of space Let's really maximize it for a vital pedestrian area Those are my comments Commissioner Nagler Clarification on that, right, so you're saying the greater than 60,000 feet permitted'? Commissioner Allen No, be excluded Commissioner Nagler Oh, I see, removed conditionally Commissioner Allen Just so we're all looking at the same thing, what table Beaudin Page 22, Table 18 44 080 Commissioner Nagler So to your point Nancy, look on page 23 Commissioner Allen Okay, I'm on page 23 Commissioner Nagler And there are those personal services listed Commissioner Balch Could we go by section rather Commissioner Allen It says 2,000 Commissioner Nagler I'm sorry, continue EXCERPT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 12 of 25