15 - Laserfiche WebLink

Commissioner Balch You're back to my initial suggestion Chair Ritter Well, we've got until 11 30 p m Commissioner Balch Honestly, I don't know what qualifies us to say that laundry ought to be included or not included You're sitting on the Planning Commission What do you think your job is'? Chair Ritter I don't want to rule from the dais Staffs made the recommendations What have you heard or what's changed from your outreach of things that should be changed'? Or have you already made the modifications'? Commissioner Allen Are we copping out by asking that'? Chair Ritter No, I'm just trying to get Beaudin To be honest, no one's gotten head long into the long list into uses People have generally appreciated the broader categories I think that the comments tonight and if there are others like it, you know, with personal services or, you know I think the other Commissioner Allen the 60,000'2 Beaudin the 60,000, that was a great comment and we can continue to kind of bolster those kinds of decisions Commissioner Balch Let's go by section if I can recommend I want to touch on the 60,000 myself, so I recommend we go by category Chair Ritter So we're doing retail Commissioner Balch Right, retail So for my 60,000 and I definitely agree with staff's recommendation that there's got to be a larger group and kind of the smaller group I challenge that in how you're going to craft that because I think of the list you provided in Table 1 which is excellent to demonstrate it, and I think of a Ranch Market or I think of if a Whole Foods was on this list, and the traffic generated from them Or, if you simply look at the two Safeway's, right'? The Safeway on Amador Center versus possibly the Raley's or the other Safeway, just where it's at in town and the artery streets and kind of how that sits, it's a challenge for the Amador Center Safeway much more so than others by the way that retail center is laid out So, you know, if you think of the old Nob Hill which is now the Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market down the street and it's just a different feeling shopping center because of the retail center itself So while I agree there's two large categories, 60,000 is a fine starting point—don't get me wrong—unfortunately, there's probably going to be people below that but will generate more traffic and that's a concern How you handle it I'm not sure, but I see that potential I'll just say it like that Beaudin So maybe there are three categories here rather than two you know, it's hard because we've really tried to scale it down and curtail it, but for me there's retail that kind of fits into the typical downtown spaces, there's retail that might be what you EXCERPT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 15 of 25