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just described as kind of in a middle range that has the potential to generate some additional impact, and then there's things that we know at a different level and different scale and will necessitate a different level of input and consideration from the City I think just hearing your conversation tonight has got me thinking a little more about a middle range that we might be able to put some additional scrutiny or public process around Commissioner Brown One other possible thing you could consider if it has its own dedicated parking as delineation So I mean, a center of stores could have their own dedicated parking which presumably is sized to meet the needs of that store hopefully whereas like a shopping center, it's going to share It's going to be pulled parking Anyway, it's just something to consider as part of that Beaudin And typically when we see any kind of parking arrangement that needs a public process, it'll be here It will be a CUP and we'll look at the whole thing comprehensively Commissioner Brown Similar comments on 60,000, how did you arrive at the 11 00 p m definition of a bar'? The reason I say that is on the weekend you mentioned to consider the kids and we ended up at the new, what I consider a bar across from next to the old Stacy's I forget the name of it Bonn Pairings Commissioner Brown Pairings I mean, that's Pairings Cellars and that's actually a bar We were there at 7 o'clock I don't know what time it closes I think it closes at 11 00 p m , but I don't know But, it just seemed that a retail business whose primary mission in life is to sell alcohol I think should be a bar versus something that stays open after 11 o'clock I thought it was a bit arbitrary That's just my own view Commissioner Balch Especially in Pleasanton because not much stays open Commissioner Brown Exactly Beaudin So we're thinking that it's the current definition of a bar and there's no reason we couldn't adjust the timeframe I think what we might want to do in that case and I'm not sure a bar is a conditionally permitted use or not Bonn Yes Beaudin It is a CUP'? And so you can always adjust the hours in a CUP process Bonn If I could just add too that the 11 00 p m was actually amended from 10 00 p m as part of the downtown hospitality guidelines so it used to actually be a threshold of 10 00 p m which was extended to 11 00 p m to encourage pedestrian activity and vitality in the downtown specifically Commissioner Balch This might also be hard to bring up about the light industrial that the speaker commented out and reduction or removal of it, so given I am a building owner at Quarry Lane, you know, that business park is an old one and it is under a PUD EXCERPT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 16 of 25