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Bonn So I think with the distinction of private schools is that it's intended to be like a general purpose school It's basically a non-PUSD school whereas the schools and colleges are most often associated with the specialty type of school similar to the rest of the category, like a music and dance school—it's more of a specialized type of school as opposed to a general purpose school Beaudin The definitions help where it's a focused line of education whether it's music and art, business—we have trade schools for things like contractors, so that is the school and college and the kinds of applications we would expect to fall into that category When you get into the private school, we're thinking that's more like the alternative to your local elementary school if that helps you Commissioner Balch like Genius Kids over in the New Leaf Shopping Center'? Beaudin Correct, unless they're providing things that are a form of education that's more culturally based in which case something like that would turn into the heritage school definition It's pretty fluid and frankly it would depend on the description that came in with the application but we'd be using the language that's in the table and the definitions associated with these in the code Commissioner Balch So when you have an application, and maybe just as a question of your experience and what you see, based upon the zoning proposal, heritage schools are permitted in many of the categories in commercial use—so can an applicant argue that they are a heritage school simply on their face or do they actually have to prove they are a heritage school in their application'? Beaudin We'd be asking for a narrative that describes the project, the curriculum, the number of teachers, and the number of students and so the burden of proof is on the applicant if they believe they fall into one of these categories and if we have any difference of opinion then we'd be asking for additional information that will clarify Commissioner Balch If an applicant came in and wanted to try to get into a permitted straight use they would argue that they're a heritage school If they fell out of that because they don't qualify as a heritage school, then they're conditional which is worse than the Minor CUP process that they would probably prefer, right'? Beaudin Yes, there's also the possibility of outdoor space things triggering So even if you're a heritage school if you wanted to have some outdoor space then you end up in a more onerous process from an entitlement perspective But you're going to entitle a project at that location that will run with the land, so it may be in the business owner's or property owner's interest to do that and do it the right way Commissioner Balch Okay, thank you THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED. Scott Raty Good evening Commissioners and staff I'm Scott Raty on behalf of the Chamber of Commerce You know, I'll back up even a little bit further than some of your original discussions, but we take it all back to the point that businesses in our EXCERPT DRAFT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, December 14, 2016 Page 4 of 30