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Ms. Michelotti stated if two terms expire at the same time and one has served two terms and one is eligible for re-appointment, then the statement would have to be made that there is only one opening as it would be the intention of the Mayor to reappoint the current commissioner. She would like to see that time served as an alternate not be counted toward the two terms unless someone fills out a regular term. If the untilled term is over two years then that would count as a first term. That person could be reappointed one time only. That way members of commissions would serve no less than six years. If an alternate served out a regular term for over two years, then that person would be eligible for one additional full term, or a total of six years. Sometimes an alternate can sit and say nothing or be very involved in the discussion, depending on the chair of the committee. At this time the alternate has full discussion privileges but does not vote. Being an alternate is not being a voting member. Mayor Tarver agreed that serving as an alternate should not be part of the eight years. He asked what would happen if a person is appointed to fill a vacancy, serves two years, is reappointed and then the eight years is up during the second term? His understanding is that at that point someone else would need to be appointed. Ms. Mohr stated in the past when someone filled a partial term for just short of four years and then had two full terms to serve, they would serve for almost twelve years. She would like to see years served kept as close to eight years as possible. If someone served a partial term of two years plus a day, it should count as one of the two terms. If Council is looking at eight years, and someone picks up a partial term of two or three years but can serve only eight years, then would not the term be thrown off schedule. She was concerned that with resignations, a majority of a commission could be appointed at the same time. Mr. Roush commented that a situation where all the terms come due at the same time is not likely to happen. A vacancy can occur for an unexpired term but the alternate could serve until the term runs out. Ms. Mohr remembered her first application for a commission and at that time there were three positions to be filled from the same interview process. Mr. Bocian stated that staff's goal was to have uniformity in term limits. The potential of having a majority leave in one particular year is unlikely to happen. Since all the commissions have alternates, when there is a vacancy you could have the alternate serve until a new member can be appointed. If someone resigns midterm, the alternate can serve until the end of April or the end of September so that the uniformity can be kept for the bi-annual appointments. The Council can also amend the term expiration dates for the purpose of establishing uniformity. This will create a process where Council can extend a term for someone or give someone a shorter term if that problem came up. Staff feels this is unlikely to happen. 10/03/95 -13-